Here’s my five takeaways from the ghastly Biden-Trump debate

There isn't anything good to say about how Donald Trump acted in the first 2020 presidential debate last night. So if you're a Trump fan who is in deep denial about what a horrible person your Dear Leader is, prepare to be faced with some uncomfortable truths about the debate.

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Here's five takeaways regarding the debate. I've backed up my opinions with views from knowledgeable political observers.

(1) This was the worst presidential debate ever, because of Trump. Being a progressive who strongly favors Biden, my biggest pre-debate fear was that Trump would do the smart thing for him politically and act presidential for 95 minutes.

After all, currently Five Thirty Eight gives Biden a 78% chance of winning the election. Trump needed to do something to shake the race up. Instead, he dug himself into a worse political position by acting like a complete asshole, which isn't how you attract undecided voters or peel away Biden's advantage among women voters.

The TV critic for the Washington Post thought the debate was one of the worst moments in television history

Tuesday night’s debate between President Trump and Joe Biden was a low point for television, for politics, for America — 95 minutes of proof that the nation has slipped into irredeemable darkness.

It was some of the worst TV that the country should ever have to see; years from now, I expect to see it ranked alongside terrorist attacks, space shuttle explosions and erroneous Oscar announcements. The blame for this goes to the president, who I’m sure believes he did a wonderful job, but who, in fact, debased the medium that made him.

One candidate, Biden, came prepared to debate; the president came with only the intent to disrupt the event, impervious to any attempt by an often helpless moderator, “Fox News Sunday” anchor Chris Wallace, to conduct an actual discourse. Trump’s lone asset (besides a bronzer glow-up to a bizarre shade of crayon that isn’t yet included in the box) was the energy and ferocity with which he interrupted Biden’s attempts to answer.

Trump delivered a constant, unhinged and fulsome pelting of dubious examples, strange retorts, immature insults and outright lies.

(2) Jake Tapper had the best pithy description of the debate. The post-debate analysis on CNN was scathing. Dana Bash said it was a "shitshow," because of Trump's despicable behavior. Not long after, Jake Tapper said:

“That was a hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck," Tapper told viewers. "That was the worst debate I have ever seen, in fact it wasn't even a debate. It was a disgrace."

(3) Trump's refusal to condemn white supremacy was his worst of many bad moments. Debate moderator Chris Wallace teed up what should have an easy question for Biden and Trump to answer about whether they condemn white supremacy. But Trump refused to do this. 

That led Van Jones to speak passionately on CNN. Here's a tweet from him.

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(4) The debate was a national embarrassment. Once in a while I see videos of altercations, fights, basically, taking place between members of parliament in a foreign country — such as Iraq. But last night's debate was much more of a national embarrassment. 

The rest of the world saw the President of the United States acting like a two year old. He bullied. He failed to keep to the debate rules he'd agreed to. He talked over Biden. He called Biden names. He lied. 

And he did all this not a few times but almost non-stop. Yes, Biden made a couple of intemperate remarks. However, Biden only did this after Trump had exhibited intolerable childish behavior on the debate stage. 

I'm pretty sure that I've watched every presidential debate during the last fifty years. (Yeah, I'm old.) As others have noted in stories about last night's debate, there was a huge controversy over one of the Bush's looking at his watch during a debate, and Al Gore emitting an audible sigh. In the old days, that's what passed for inappropriate debate behavior.

Trump went so far beyond those standards, he broke new ground in how to act like a complete jerk in a debate. Most of the rest of the world already laughs at the United States for having a clown as president. Now they have even more reason to feel superior toward us. A Politico story says:

Sure, it is easy to make fun of civics-class pieties about how the election ultimately belongs to the voters, and how America as the oldest democracy serves as an example to the world. But aren’t those maxims supposed to be at least kind of true?

It is hard to imagine how the evening could have been more disrespectful to voters, or a more embarrassing glimpse into the state of American political culture at moment when the country’s reputation in the world is already under severe challenge. Cumulatively this made the debate simply uncomfortable, like accidentally opening the office supply closet and seeing a naked colleague—just avert your gaze and walk away.

(5) Trump's lies about voter fraud were especially disturbing in his torrent of falsehoods. Lie after lie spewed from Trump's mouth during the debate. It's hard to pick the worst lie, since they all were disgusting.

However, his lies about voter fraud rose to the top for me, in part because they seem designed to establish an erroneous foundation for federal courts and state legislatures to step in and override the will of the people by declaring victory for Trump in states where he actually lost to Biden. 

Here's an excerpt from a Washington Post analysis of Trump's lies about voter fraud.  (They call it disinformation; I prefer lies.)

Chris Wallace made clear in advance of Tuesday night’s first 2020 presidential debate that his role, by the rules, wasn’t to be a fact-checker. That disappointed President Trump’s critics, especially after Wallace so deftly and brutally fact-checked Trump in an interview two months ago.

Nowhere was such a moderator more sorely needed than when voter fraud came up.

Trump unleashed a barrage of false, unproven and sometimes unintelligible claims about mail-in voting. Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden disputed some of them in broad terms, but there was otherwise no indication for the casual viewer that Trump was inventing and exaggerating the true threat of voter fraud come Nov. 3.

Let’s run through some of Trump’s claims, vs. what the actual record shows.


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2 Comments

  1. tucson

    When you lie about someone, he gets his back up. You hit Trump. He hits back.
    The chump Biden starts out calling him a xenophobe and a racist for banning travel from China on Jan. 30
    which turned out to be a good move that saved many lives.
    What? Trump is supposed to take that?
    Well, we can’t blame the hollow Biden. He’s just doing his handlers’ bidding.
    Following instructions as best his feeble mind can.
    Biden looked weak, old and low energy especially compared to Trump.
    Biden is as vital as a worn limp dishrag. Gray and used up. Vacuous.
    You want him up against the shrewd and ruthless Chinese?
    Biden is not strong enough for the job. Someone else will be running the show.
    Biden did not support Law and Order.
    He could not name any law enforcement or police organizations that support him.
    That’s because he will not denounce the filthy scum ransacking our cities.
    Without law and order you have no society. Just chieftains at best. Chaos at worst.
    He’s a stooge for far leftist extremists that have taken over the Democrat Party who want to impose their statist agenda upon the country, a massive transfer of wealth into their hands, for their control.
    Biden has never stood for anything except for which way the political winds blow.
    He’d quote Ronald Reagan if it would serve his political ambitions.
    He’s a hollow man being further hollowed by dementia and being led by a leash held by those who would undermine the values and principles upon which this country was founded.
    A vote for Biden is not a vote for Biden. Nobody is voting FOR him.
    It is a vote against Trump, and all Trump wants is for our country to prosper to remain free.
    If Biden were to win, think what you’d get… nothing. A hollow man directed by others whose motivations are power and control at the expense of our loss of freedom. They already control how you think because they control the media. You want to give them everything?

  2. Skyline

    Congratulations to voters!
    Voters got to see Biden’s reaction to having actual hard questions asked for the first time.
    NOT the ultra left, in the tank, “Joe; what is your favorite color” type of questions.
    The result?
    He looked like he had just crawled out of the wring with Mike Tyson.
    Weak, weak, weak!
    GOOD JOB, President Trump!!!

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